This is an Italian made lightweight treeless saddle in a western styling that is as new. It has the western fenders and endurance stirrups which make a long ride easy on your knees. It can have the Freeform pads placed underneath which make it more like a treed saddle or you can use an appropriate pad, skito, equalizer etc. which is how I used it. This saddle has a gel seat which makes it extremely comfortable. It will come with the Skito pad in the photo. This is far below the cost for a new one.